Comments on: The Girl in the Cafe https://shepline.com/2005/06/28/the-girl-in-the-cafe/ author | illustrator | digital designer Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:29:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.4 By: steeraway https://shepline.com/2005/06/28/the-girl-in-the-cafe/#comment-1874 Wed, 29 Jun 2005 06:47:02 +0000 http://journal.shepline.com/?p=1080#comment-1874 You should read this entry from an LJ-friend of mine – http://www.livejournal.com/users/libellum/118093.html#cutid1

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By: soulsong https://shepline.com/2005/06/28/the-girl-in-the-cafe/#comment-1873 Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:02:13 +0000 http://journal.shepline.com/?p=1080#comment-1873 In reply to Thomas.

You still havent indicated how you keep the debt from coming back. What’s to stop them borrowing again? A worldwide ban on lending to Africa? Dont you realise that all economic growth comes from investment which is a form of lending?

Scrapping the debt will do nothing. What’s required first is for the developed world to end its protectionism; and since France and the UK can’t begin to even negotiate on the rebate/farm subsidies, what sort of naivete is it that thinks it’s easy to wave a magic wand and end the problems in Africa?

There are reasons certain countries (like certain corporations) are massively in debt. By removing the debt you do nothing about the underlying issues. The G8 should forget about Africa and fix the WTO, IMF, World Bank and UN. Until those institutions stop favouring rich nations and start enforcing their rules fairly, there’s absolutely no point waving any magic wands in Africa’s direction.

And dont even get me started on arms sales, which should be banned outright without regard to how many jobs are lost.

Cancelling debt? That should be the very last thing, not the first.

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By: Thomas https://shepline.com/2005/06/28/the-girl-in-the-cafe/#comment-1872 Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:45:18 +0000 http://journal.shepline.com/?p=1080#comment-1872 In reply to soulsong.

It’s one thing to write off debt, but where’s the plan to make the debts stay gone?

x million pounds goes into paying interest on these depts. No dept. No interest payments. More money for something else.

And where’s the plan to keep the cash out of the hands of corrupt leaders?

There are no guarantees, but that’s still not a reason to not go ahead with it. Scrap the dept, and then worry about corrupt leaders (and what about the millions that go into the oil companies of corrupt US presidents…?)

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By: soulsong https://shepline.com/2005/06/28/the-girl-in-the-cafe/#comment-1871 Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:36:22 +0000 http://journal.shepline.com/?p=1080#comment-1871 In reply to Thomas.

I wish it were simple, but it’s clearly not. It’s one thing to write off debt, but where’s the plan to make the debts stay gone? And where’s the plan to keep the cash out of the hands of corrupt leaders? African nations simply don’t have the skills to compete with developed countries. If we were going to tear down the import tariffs and all the protectionism of our markets I might have some belief that it’s just that simple, but alas getting rich nations to agree to be poorer is just not simple at all really, or it would have happened by now.

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By: Thomas https://shepline.com/2005/06/28/the-girl-in-the-cafe/#comment-1870 Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:08:39 +0000 http://journal.shepline.com/?p=1080#comment-1870 In reply to soulsong.

Inevitable use of Sigur-Rós, yes, although considering that Björk was the only thing Gina new about Iceland, it was surprising that her music didn’t feature in it all.

I particlularly liked that the closing credits ended with several clicks of the fingers spaced 3 seconds apart.

Call me idealistic and innocent if you like, but actually, yes, I really do think it is that simple. And no, I don’t know why those in powere haven’t done anything about it.

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By: soulsong https://shepline.com/2005/06/28/the-girl-in-the-cafe/#comment-1869 Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:53:13 +0000 http://journal.shepline.com/?p=1080#comment-1869 I particularly loved the use of Sigur Ros’ music. It was inevitable, I was waiting for it, and was delighted when it came.

The film itself was delightfully moving and as you said, the stats actually went really well alongside the romance. The only thing I struggled with was the sense that it can’t really be that easy or they would surely have done it by now. I think the leaders and their governments should be granted more respect. I’m pretty sure that under the same circumstances I’d probably end up accepting a compromise just like they do.

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